Nate Amidon: The Leadership Void — What Happens When Product Owners Forget They’re Part of the Scrum Team

In this episode, we refer to Nate’s previous BONUS episode on the brief-execute-debrief cycle and alignment.

The Great Product Owner: The Team Player Who Leads From the Trenches

“The best product owners are really part of the team. They attend all the ceremonies, they give their daily stand-up status, they’re shoulder-to-shoulder in the trenches.” – Nate Amidon

For Nate, the best product owners he’s worked with share one defining trait: they act like teammates, not managers. They show up to daily stand-ups and report on what they worked on, what they completed, and what they’re blocked on — just like everyone else. They listen to ideas from the team without being dismissive, recognizing that engineers often know the user just as well as they do. They don’t treat the product owner role as a position of authority over the team, but as a different function within the same unit.

Nate draws from his military background: leadership is “care and feeding of the people.” When product owners internalize that the team’s success is their success — when they feel genuine allegiance to the people they work with — backlogs get better organized, priorities become clearer, and collaboration happens naturally. As Vasco adds, alignment is the real purpose behind Scrum ceremonies, and when POs are there, alignment follows.

Self-reflection Question: As a product owner, do your team members see you as someone who is part of the team — or as someone the team works for?

The Bad Product Owner: The Leadership Void That Creates Corporate Game of Thrones

“It eventually becomes a leadership void on the team that someone will step up and fill — and usually it’s an engineer, or the Scrum Master becomes a quasi-product owner.” – Nate Amidon

Nate views the product owner role as fundamentally a leadership position — leadership of the backlog, prioritization, and the connection between business needs and team execution. When a PO doesn’t embrace that responsibility, the symptoms are predictable: throwing half-baked stories over the fence with a “just figure it out” attitude, constantly shifting priorities without considering the downstream impact on a team that just spent two weeks building something, and being absent from the daily conversations that keep everyone aligned. What follows is what Nate calls a “leadership void” — someone else on the team, often an engineer or the Scrum Master, steps in as a quasi-product owner because the work still needs direction.

Meanwhile, without a PO acting as a filter, stakeholders start shoulder-tapping the team directly, competing directors play corporate Game of Thrones over whose priorities win, and the team gets whiplashed between conflicting demands. The biggest red flag? When you hear the team say: “We just did what you told us.”

Self-reflection Question: If your product owner disappeared for two weeks, would anyone on the team notice a gap in leadership and direction — or has someone already quietly stepped in to fill that void?

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About Nate Amidon

Nate AmidonNate, founder of Form100 Consulting, and a former Air Force officer and combat pilot turned servant leader in software development. Nate has taken the high-stakes world of military aviation and brought its core leadership principles—clarity, accountability, and execution—into his work with Agile teams.

You can link with Nate Amidon on LinkedIn. Learn more at Form100 Consulting.

Kevin Hoey: The Product Owner as a Team Player in Agile Teams

The Great Product Owner: The Product Owner as a Team Player in Agile Teams

Kevin highlights the qualities of an exceptional Product Owner who excels in communication, provides clear context, and uses inclusive language like “us” and “we”. This PO effectively conveys the product vision, fosters team collaboration, and ensures everyone understands the impact of their work. Kevin underscores the importance of over-communication and listening, demonstrating how great POs drive team success.

The Bad Product Owner: From Absent to Engaged, Removing the Absent PO Dynamics

Kevin discusses the challenges of working with an absent Product Owner, which he identifies as a significant anti-pattern. He shares his experience of addressing the issue by understanding the PO’s pressures and advocating for their presence. Kevin introduced the concept of a Proxy PO, which eventually led to a successful transition and improved team dynamics. He emphasizes the importance of curiosity, understanding, and taking transition steps to manage risks.

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About Kevin Hoey

Kevin is the lead scrum master at Domestic and General, with 10 years’ experience in project management before moving into scrum mastery. He now heads up a team of scrum masters, whilst continuing to support his own squads. Kevin believes scrum masters need to focus on self-improvement to turbocharge their ability to better support teams and the wider business on the journey to effectiveness.

You can link with Kevin Hoey on LinkedIn.

Erik de Bos: The magical ingredient that transformed a team member, from bad apple, to team player!

Sometimes there are team members that have an outsized impact on the progress of the team. In this episode, we talk about a team member that was holding the team back. Erik tried several approaches to help this team member, but those did not work. After a while, this team member was moved to a new team, and Erik was afraid the same anti-pattern would happen again. However, something magical happened, and this team member was able to move on from his previous anti-patterns. How did this happen? Listen in to learn what was different in the second team, and how Erik was able to support the team member and the new team in a new approach that helped both the team and the individual succeed!

About Erik de Bos

Erik is what you get when you take a trained scientist, who mastered Agile as a programmer and is now a Scrum Master. A pragmatic, analytic, systemic and critical personality who is completely focused on understanding the problem. Because once you understand the problem, the solution is easy.

You can link with Erik de Bos on LinkedIn and read Erik de Bos’ articles in Medium.

Ben Linders on how to detect when someone is not a team player

How do you handle people that are not team players? We hear often that our role as Scrum Masters is to help the team collaborate. How can we do that if some team members are not team players? Ben explains how he was able to detect that in one team and what he did about it.
In this episode we mention the book Liftoff: Launching Agile Teams & Projects, by Diana Larsen and Ainsley Nies, a book that can help you get a project or a team started in the right way.
Ben also mentions one of his blog posts on how to help teams form with the use of Futurespectives for team chartering.

About About Ben Linders

Ben Linders is an Independent Consultant in Agile, Lean, Quality and Continuous Improvement, based in The Netherlands. Author of Getting Value out of Agile Retrospectives, Waardevolle Agile Retrospectives & What Drives Quality.
You can follow Ben Linders on Twitter, and connect with Ben Linders on LinkedIn.

You can find Ben’s Agile self-assessment in his web-site, and find more about his work and upcoming workshops.

In case you are interested in Agile Retrospectives we are at the moment preparing a 10 DAYS FREE AGILE RETROSPECTIVES PROGRAM. This is a complete self-study program where you will learn anything that you need to become a great Agile Retrospectives facilitator.

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